tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post2641493359849153129..comments2023-11-05T09:33:34.696+00:00Comments on The 'Spill: Mandy's Law: Why it's a Very Bad ThingBlimpyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03062521891682719767noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-33154993104973478622009-11-25T22:56:43.203+00:002009-11-25T22:56:43.203+00:00Hey Lambre. You beat me to it. In Spain there'...Hey Lambre. You beat me to it. In Spain there's loads of rhetoric but we all know that the prosecutions just won't come because that's the way our "overburdened" (read inefficient) legal system works. We have to put up with the "digital canon" paying a royalty when buying any digital support (CD, pen drive, etc) regardless of the use it's put to. I produce my own material for my work but have to pay a canon on the cd's I then transfer it to. Guilty until proven innocent, as has been said above. This pisses me off, but if Mandy gets his way, I'll probably feel a lot better off than my friends residing in the UK. <br />As regards MP3 sites like this, under Spanish law, as it stands today, I cannot be prosecuted for anything I post here because I don't stand to make a profit.<br />Having worked in publishing I am more than aware of the intellectual property issue, but must add that I never saw more (illegal) photocopying of teaching materials than during my time as a teacher in one of Spain's most prestigious publishers. This is a complicated issue, for sure!Makinavajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17431063279898268957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-85140246373297701182009-11-25T22:39:49.979+00:002009-11-25T22:39:49.979+00:00It's the same thing here in Spain (although no...It's the same thing here in Spain (although nobody is proposing anything nearly as drastic as a 3 strike rule here. This is a different sort of country, here they can get away with applying a canon to anything related to the internet, no matter how tenuously, and people will pay). While I agree with ejaydee's concerns (and many public figures' too) about music losing its intrinsic value if things were taken to an extreme and that, in order to create anything, you need an incentive, the truth is that no amount of laws is going to stop the process once it has already started. I have to admit it's incredibly fun to see corporations (record companies in this case... phone companies, retailers, ISP's and many other technological industries are earning loads of money because of what they call "piracy") on the losing end of technological development for once. When science and technology have meant profit for big business, time and time again laws has been passed to allow profit to happen, with little regard to any other consideration. Now, for once, tables are turned, and suddenly science, technology and progress are something to be frightened of...<br /><br />If it wasn't so funny, I'd be pissed off. Really.lambretinhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01489409289970997782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-54343547181621388012009-11-25T22:29:21.749+00:002009-11-25T22:29:21.749+00:00Well, it's always been the job of Government t...Well, it's always been the job of Government to take away freedom. Get those festive 'Spill picks in now - it may be the last time. President O has a lot on his plate, so it may be a while before this happens here too - but it will happen.Shoeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-30614639463318204422009-11-25T20:39:53.376+00:002009-11-25T20:39:53.376+00:00This whole thing stinks of media cartels seeking t...This whole thing stinks of media cartels seeking to maintain (or rather restore) their monopoly. If they gave a fuck about 'poor starving artists' they wouldn't have spent the past 50 years systematically ripping off the vast majority of them.<br /><br />Why Mandelson isn't facing criminal charges for accepting bribes is one of life's mysteries.Tim (Kalyr)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00960811565368970485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-30754714975074913532009-11-25T20:39:48.806+00:002009-11-25T20:39:48.806+00:00This whole thing stinks of media cartels seeking t...This whole thing stinks of media cartels seeking to maintain (or rather restore) their monopoly. If they gave a fuck about 'poor starving artists' they wouldn't have spent the past 50 years systematically ripping off the vast majority of them.<br /><br />Why Mandelson isn't facing criminal charges for accepting bribes is one of life's mysteries.Tim (Kalyr)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00960811565368970485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-33199702353702966752009-11-25T20:37:43.020+00:002009-11-25T20:37:43.020+00:00I agree with you on the fact that a sweeping law c...I agree with you on the fact that a sweeping law couldn't work effectively. In my opinion, music downloading for free is such a grey area, I doubt a law can address the problem fairly. There are as many types of downloaders as there are internet users, I wonder what their real target demographic is.<br />I know someone who has a clear code when it comes to his illegal downloading, but it's still illegal. Maybe we could have a coupon system or something. If you've downloaded X album, and are still listening after a month, you should pay for it. Oh wait, they already have that it's a subscription model. Meh.<br />Having said that, we've reached a point where a generation of kids could grow thinking that music is always free, and maybe I'm a reactionary, but it doesn't seem right to me.<br /><br />Now let's all stalk Dorian on twitter...ejaydeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09375968795284771538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-41937859634012263582009-11-25T20:37:30.966+00:002009-11-25T20:37:30.966+00:00Tim can you link to the petition please?Tim can you link to the petition please?Captain Ravemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1533372025110910037.post-28923065450265846752009-11-25T20:13:51.736+00:002009-11-25T20:13:51.736+00:00Once upon a time they told us that "Bootleg A...Once upon a time they told us that "Bootleg Albums Steal From Bands", then it was "Home Taping Is Killing Music" now it is "Illegal Downloading Is Killing Music".<br /><br />Music still seems to be carrying on.<br /><br />The problem, as I see it, is that the official mass-market music, as promoted by the likes of Simon Cowell, is a steaming heap of poo, plus the sheer greed of the multi-nationals who own all the record labels.Carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068889968857575433noreply@blogger.com