Wednesday, June 4, 2008

Obama




Is he the nominee? I don't predict this will all go smoothly, but at this point it's hard not to feel hopeful.

31 comments:

CB said...

I saw there were no comments and would hate you to think that there weren't others who share your optimism. I am trying to put Gore Vidal's prediction of a shooting out of my mind. Wadayarekon - should he take Hillary into his team in some position?

ejaydee said...

To use an old Chris Rock joke, he should have a Black vice-presidential candidate to avoid a shooting.

steenbeck said...

I don't understand why Hillary feels so entitled--she's said Obama should pay off her campaign debt or make her VP--why?!? What has she done to deserve it? I had a little chat with the mayor of our town, who's wife ran Clinton's NJ campaign, (I said can't your wife tell her to DROP OUT) and he said he'd only vote for Obama if she's his VP. People are crazy.

CB said...

I can't imagine she would be anything but a loose cannon but I guess that is what she is angling for by continuing to run (and run up debt) way past the point of defeat. There must be as many who would consider her a liability as consider her an asset to Obama.

steenbeck said...

They're nuts...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=171030&title=terry-mcauliffe

ejaydee said...

I can't believe that once the resentment and disappointment simmers down, an elected member of a party won't vote for its presidential candidate.

steenbeck said...

Woohoo!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/us/politics/04cnd-campaign.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Or, it's about f*ckin time

ejaydee said...

How do you know she's not endorsing him for the VP spot?

steenbeck said...

I wouldn't be a bit surprised. Or endorsing him so she could get the VP slot, more likely.

steenbeck said...

On a totally different subject, have you seen this? It seemed too good to be true, at first, and I've had mixed results with it, but still...
http://etalonhiphop.blogspot.com/

ejaydee said...

No way. Is this what I think it is?

steenbeck said...

Do you know what .rar. means as a download suffix?

ejaydee said...

That means it's a compressed folder, like a zip file. If you don't have it already you need Stuffit Expander to open it. Versiontracker.com is your friend.

CB said...

So should an old timer into reggae,soul,and pop who has dabbled and liked Burial, Kanye West and some Wu Tang Clan stuff be tempted by this or is it too hard core for someone in their second century?

steenbeck said...

Ejaydee--thank you (again)

CB--give it a try...there's a lot of variety there, bound to be something you like.

CB said...

Any you recommend for someone who likes a little 'literacy' in their lyrics and prefers subtlety to bluster? More Orange Juice than Led Zeppelin.

steenbeck said...

YES!! But I have to take my son to school. I'll ponder it on the way. First thoughts--Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, Roots... More to come.

steenbeck said...

Hmm, I always feel a little strange recommending music, because my knowledge is so slight, but I think all the people I mentioned above, who collaborate a lot, have very thoughtful and powerful lyrics. I've been especially crazy about Mos Def, lately, who I find very poetic. The album Mos Def and Talib Kweli are Black Star has a song based on a Toni Morrison Novel, and one which mentions James Baldwin's play The Amen Corner--so it's literally literary.

Also Outkast, and anything that they're involved with, never fails to leave me in awe with what they say and how they say it.

Something I find wonderful and occasionally infuriating is that with Hip Hop one thing you like tends to lead to many other things you like, so you can follow from one to another. If you like Kanye West, for instance, he's produced a lot of music for other artists (inc. Talib Kweli, Jay-Z, Common, it goes on and on) So you could look into that...

And now hopefully someone who knows more about these things will respond to your comment...

steenbeck said...

Your daily Daily Show clip. I love how they seem to put everything into perspective.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=171106&title=headlines-obama-makes-history

I don't know if I'll be able to watch the show any more if Obama is elected.

CB said...

Thanks guys

ejaydee said...

Well on top of Steenbeck's suggestions; from the West Coast column I would say Jurassic 5, The Pharcyde, THe Coup for political lyrics, Tha Alkoholiks for fun lyrics.
From the East Coast column, I've heard good things from Anti-Pop Consortium, ATCQ of course, Black Sheep were cool, Brand Nubian, Camp Lo are delicious fun, Digable Planets, Kool Keith, KRS-One, MF DOOM, Poor Tighteous Teachers, Organized Konfusion.

ejaydee said...

Oh.

steenbeck said...

What, Oh?

ejaydee said...

It's just that while I was writing, it looked like CB was done.

CB said...

Not done - merely sleeping.

steenbeck said...

And since Ejaydee was consulting the list when he made his suggestions, it's actually helpful to you, whereas I realize that I suggested some that aren't to be found there. Still good, though.

ejaydee said...

Actually, one that isn't on the list and is known for vhis lyrics is Ras Kass.

CB said...

Thanks again.

ejaydee said...

This might make you laugh, (or angry) it's hilarious because I'm optimistic that people who post on here are actually Republicans, or Clinton supporters who need to air their grief but will eventually realise what's important. The amount of paranoia is baffling.

http://www.hcsfjm.com/comments4.html

steenbeck said...

Haha! Ignorance on display. It's crazy how--I'm too tired and hot to use a more generous word--stupid they sound. Now you see why I read the guardian for news of the world. There are so many things in American politics--from Rove rapping to every time that Bush opens his mouth, that are just laugh-or-cry moments, and this is a huge collection of them.

steenbeck said...

Ho-lee shit. I took a look further in the comments. These people are NUTS and they will believe ANYTHING. Obama's slip about 37 states apparently corresponds with the 37 states of Islam, because, you know of course that he's muslim. (Which would be bad, why?) Then I took the dubious step of looking at the home page. Did you SEE that video? I couldn't watch the whole thing. And the Obama jokes...It's like an accident scene, disturbing as hell, but somehow you can't look away. It's a good thing I'm never running for public office, because I'm afraid my attitude would be--you are such a bunch of ignorant fucks that I don't want your vote.