What follows is the development of Dondling, as taken from the RR comments.
AlexaK
Comment No. 710851
'dondled - adj. - (verb: 'dondle) -- a variant of 'donded, a dialect peculiar to RR. From the Typographically Challenged "sedonded," via the English "Seconded."
For those less versed in the technical terminology of linguistics, here's an explanation in "plein English"..
frogprincess
Comment No. 660790
the 'sedonds' is a classic RR typo for 'seconds' and was kind of adopted as RR lingo as we all make typing mistakes, especially on a Friday night when the well earned glass of whatever kicks in. You know that moment when you're drinking champagne cos you have no prosecco left in the fridge?
But where did this expression really come from? How did it develop?
After about half an hour of lacklustre searching, the linguistic experts at RROS have put together this take it or leave it survey of the term "dondle", including this early forerunner of the expression:
ejaydee
Comment No. 508215
Secdonds for the SESAME STREET THEME TOON!!!!
The first recorded formal use followed shortly afterwards:
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 529313
MASSIVE SEDONDS for Joy Division, as Atmosphere is my favourite and best song of theirs.
Also I would like to know when the "Massive Sedonds" t-shirt is going to be available from the Guardian shop. I for one would buy it, and on the back there could be a list of the 50 best music t-shirts as knocked up by jasonaparkes
..After some chin-stroking, nodding and a few sips of wine, the well oiled RR call-and-response mechanism kicked into place..
DarceysDad
Comment No. 539762
By the way, Blimpy, I'm working on the Massive Sedonds T-shirts ...
Tempusfugit
Comment No. 576906
FP, have you got a keyboard with 2 'ds' on it (as in 'sedonds') or am I missing something?
What great invention didn't have its near misses? We are left to wonder what might have been...
Bathmat
Comment No. 637731
Everyone's sedonding Heatwave by Martha Reeves & the Vs, which I happily thirdond
saneshane
Comment No. 722479
extraordondary thrids PLEASE
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 733409
GIGANTIC DONDALOONDIES
The point of no return, however, was reached on the landmark date of August 17 with the first official recognition of the term- from here, there was no going back..
Dorianlynskey
Comment No. 647414
Morning all
CLARIFICATION TIME
I'm counting sedonds as individual posters' first choices. So if you've already picked, say, The One I Love, then you can't sedond, say, 1 Thing.
Now the usage was firmly established, it wasn't long before the desire for formal acceptance made itself felt..
ShivSidecar
Comment No. 647216
As a little 100th birthday diversion, can anybody supply me with the etymology of the verb "to sedond"? And a citation of its first use? (Or is it one of those if-you-have-to-ask-you'll-never-understand thangs?)
some of the earlier investigations into the etymology of the term are yet to be verified...
lukethedrifter
Comment No. 647369
wow, so clearly 'sedonding' is already mythical, and everyone has their own sedond story. For my part, I assert that the first recorded example of sedonding was found in the Tao Te Ching. The specific verse in question reads:
'The way that can be seen
is not the constant way;
is not water more powerful than stone,
for a river may flow through granite.
Is not Nick Cave the way?
For there are sedonds in profusion'.
frogprincess
Comment No. 712181
Dond: Etym. 15th cen. Be-dondle [expressing support, emotional or political] "Methinks I have a lay bedondled" [15th century ode by Pater Darcum]
and, as with any popular phrase, the early history was littered with variations and abbrieviations:
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 657714
Immediate and massive 'donds to the Fannies and Buggles
severin
Comment No. 669938
eerrmm ... "sendondly" (?)
frogprincess
Comment No. 710228
(which I instantly 'dondle')
alicksboots
Comment No. 713865
Donds and thrids to it.
murphsup
Comment No. 711997
Oh yes, this is bloody marvellous. Ultradonded!!
a quick look at some of the areas our linguists are currently wrangling over...
ElDerino
Comment No. 712472
Re the great dondling debate - surely a dondle must in fact be the diminutive of dond, which would make it kind of the opposite of the "massive seconds", to be used when you're pretty keen on a song, but don't quite feel it's up there in the pantheon...
AlexaK
Comment No. 712644
while it's a good idea, I'm not sure if 'Dondlation Intensity (*TM) should be inversely proportional to the degree of variation from the original term, as these were intended as synonyms. Perhaps we should do as the Romans do and use appropriate suffixes... Dondlino/Dondlissimo...?
Just a thought...
In the initial period of expansion, it was inevitable that franchises would be developed...
orangeairplane
Comment No. 722289
Mcdondles for sentimental heavy rock-songs.
Let's not pretend the road was wide and straight, however. A stubborn rearguard resisted to the end... before it was ruthlessly eradicated..
mattinthehat
Comment No. 614903
sedonds (sic);
ruskin
Comment No. 660574
I too have no idea about how to do so, what sedonds means, etc, can't be bothered to trawl the archive, and really don't want anyone to go to any trouble that would basically be tiresome to one and all.
DickDastardly
Comment No. 710818
can anyone tell an old man what "Dondle" means? I'm lost.
Proudfoot
Comment No. 710917
@dickDastardly et al: "Let me explain something to you. Um, I do not "Second". You Second. I Dond. So that's what you call it. You know, that or, uh, His Dondness, or uh, Donder, or El Donderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing"
Apologies to The Big Lebowski.
DickDastardly
Comment No. 710964
donding is very silly, grow up
Mark68
Comment No. 711233
Being told that donding is silly by someone called DickDastardly... you've gotta love this blog.
Expansion into foreign languages:
murphsup
Comment No. 626541
Also muchos sedondos for Rachid Taha's Rock El Casbah
TonNL
Comment No. 714928
More international dondling:
Dutch: dondelen: ik dondel (present), ik dondelde (past), ik heb gedondeld (past perfect): to support certain things wholeheartedly
ejaydee
Comment No. 714296
If one wants to mark strong agreement, should it be dondlised, as in "you've just been dondlised my friend!"
More international vocabulary: dondler, je dondele nous dondelons.
Dondlar, eu dondlo, voce dondle (maybe I should insert a diphtong here)
Esp: dondlar, yo dondlo, he dondlado...
gordonimmel
Comment No. 711812
If we're going to move 'dondle into the German language, shouldn't it be 'Gedondlet' or are you claiming that it's a strong verb?
It remained only to complete the formalities of establishing standard units of reference..
DarceysDad
Comment No. 691688
a kilo of 'donds.
and developing the inevitable double entendres..
tracyk
Comment No. 711063
Oooh, Darceysdad, what a massive dondle you have...for The Sundays Monochrome...I feel dirty now.
To close, it's worth taking a moment to reflect on the statement "the iceberg is always much larger under water than it appears to be above":
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 585957
Nuge sedonds ofr Martha Wainwright's swaery number
AlexaK
Comment No. 710851
'dondled - adj. - (verb: 'dondle) -- a variant of 'donded, a dialect peculiar to RR. From the Typographically Challenged "sedonded," via the English "Seconded."
For those less versed in the technical terminology of linguistics, here's an explanation in "plein English"..
frogprincess
Comment No. 660790
the 'sedonds' is a classic RR typo for 'seconds' and was kind of adopted as RR lingo as we all make typing mistakes, especially on a Friday night when the well earned glass of whatever kicks in. You know that moment when you're drinking champagne cos you have no prosecco left in the fridge?
But where did this expression really come from? How did it develop?
After about half an hour of lacklustre searching, the linguistic experts at RROS have put together this take it or leave it survey of the term "dondle", including this early forerunner of the expression:
ejaydee
Comment No. 508215
Secdonds for the SESAME STREET THEME TOON!!!!
The first recorded formal use followed shortly afterwards:
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 529313
MASSIVE SEDONDS for Joy Division, as Atmosphere is my favourite and best song of theirs.
Also I would like to know when the "Massive Sedonds" t-shirt is going to be available from the Guardian shop. I for one would buy it, and on the back there could be a list of the 50 best music t-shirts as knocked up by jasonaparkes
..After some chin-stroking, nodding and a few sips of wine, the well oiled RR call-and-response mechanism kicked into place..
DarceysDad
Comment No. 539762
By the way, Blimpy, I'm working on the Massive Sedonds T-shirts ...
Tempusfugit
Comment No. 576906
FP, have you got a keyboard with 2 'ds' on it (as in 'sedonds') or am I missing something?
What great invention didn't have its near misses? We are left to wonder what might have been...
Bathmat
Comment No. 637731
Everyone's sedonding Heatwave by Martha Reeves & the Vs, which I happily thirdond
saneshane
Comment No. 722479
extraordondary thrids PLEASE
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 733409
GIGANTIC DONDALOONDIES
The point of no return, however, was reached on the landmark date of August 17 with the first official recognition of the term- from here, there was no going back..
Dorianlynskey
Comment No. 647414
Morning all
CLARIFICATION TIME
I'm counting sedonds as individual posters' first choices. So if you've already picked, say, The One I Love, then you can't sedond, say, 1 Thing.
Now the usage was firmly established, it wasn't long before the desire for formal acceptance made itself felt..
ShivSidecar
Comment No. 647216
As a little 100th birthday diversion, can anybody supply me with the etymology of the verb "to sedond"? And a citation of its first use? (Or is it one of those if-you-have-to-ask-you'll-never-understand thangs?)
some of the earlier investigations into the etymology of the term are yet to be verified...
lukethedrifter
Comment No. 647369
wow, so clearly 'sedonding' is already mythical, and everyone has their own sedond story. For my part, I assert that the first recorded example of sedonding was found in the Tao Te Ching. The specific verse in question reads:
'The way that can be seen
is not the constant way;
is not water more powerful than stone,
for a river may flow through granite.
Is not Nick Cave the way?
For there are sedonds in profusion'.
frogprincess
Comment No. 712181
Dond: Etym. 15th cen. Be-dondle [expressing support, emotional or political] "Methinks I have a lay bedondled" [15th century ode by Pater Darcum]
and, as with any popular phrase, the early history was littered with variations and abbrieviations:
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 657714
Immediate and massive 'donds to the Fannies and Buggles
severin
Comment No. 669938
eerrmm ... "sendondly" (?)
frogprincess
Comment No. 710228
(which I instantly 'dondle')
alicksboots
Comment No. 713865
Donds and thrids to it.
murphsup
Comment No. 711997
Oh yes, this is bloody marvellous. Ultradonded!!
a quick look at some of the areas our linguists are currently wrangling over...
ElDerino
Comment No. 712472
Re the great dondling debate - surely a dondle must in fact be the diminutive of dond, which would make it kind of the opposite of the "massive seconds", to be used when you're pretty keen on a song, but don't quite feel it's up there in the pantheon...
AlexaK
Comment No. 712644
while it's a good idea, I'm not sure if 'Dondlation Intensity (*TM) should be inversely proportional to the degree of variation from the original term, as these were intended as synonyms. Perhaps we should do as the Romans do and use appropriate suffixes... Dondlino/Dondlissimo...?
Just a thought...
In the initial period of expansion, it was inevitable that franchises would be developed...
orangeairplane
Comment No. 722289
Mcdondles for sentimental heavy rock-songs.
Let's not pretend the road was wide and straight, however. A stubborn rearguard resisted to the end... before it was ruthlessly eradicated..
mattinthehat
Comment No. 614903
sedonds (sic);
ruskin
Comment No. 660574
I too have no idea about how to do so, what sedonds means, etc, can't be bothered to trawl the archive, and really don't want anyone to go to any trouble that would basically be tiresome to one and all.
DickDastardly
Comment No. 710818
can anyone tell an old man what "Dondle" means? I'm lost.
Proudfoot
Comment No. 710917
@dickDastardly et al: "Let me explain something to you. Um, I do not "Second". You Second. I Dond. So that's what you call it. You know, that or, uh, His Dondness, or uh, Donder, or El Donderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing"
Apologies to The Big Lebowski.
DickDastardly
Comment No. 710964
donding is very silly, grow up
Mark68
Comment No. 711233
Being told that donding is silly by someone called DickDastardly... you've gotta love this blog.
Expansion into foreign languages:
murphsup
Comment No. 626541
Also muchos sedondos for Rachid Taha's Rock El Casbah
TonNL
Comment No. 714928
More international dondling:
Dutch: dondelen: ik dondel (present), ik dondelde (past), ik heb gedondeld (past perfect): to support certain things wholeheartedly
ejaydee
Comment No. 714296
If one wants to mark strong agreement, should it be dondlised, as in "you've just been dondlised my friend!"
More international vocabulary: dondler, je dondele nous dondelons.
Dondlar, eu dondlo, voce dondle (maybe I should insert a diphtong here)
Esp: dondlar, yo dondlo, he dondlado...
gordonimmel
Comment No. 711812
If we're going to move 'dondle into the German language, shouldn't it be 'Gedondlet' or are you claiming that it's a strong verb?
It remained only to complete the formalities of establishing standard units of reference..
DarceysDad
Comment No. 691688
a kilo of 'donds.
and developing the inevitable double entendres..
tracyk
Comment No. 711063
Oooh, Darceysdad, what a massive dondle you have...for The Sundays Monochrome...I feel dirty now.
To close, it's worth taking a moment to reflect on the statement "the iceberg is always much larger under water than it appears to be above":
BlimpyMcFlah
Comment No. 585957
Nuge sedonds ofr Martha Wainwright's swaery number
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Maybe I'm getting old, Blimpy, but when I've referenced this for the first time in a while, that font is eye-wateringly small.
Can you do something about it, please?
Ta.
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