I might as well weigh in with this, there's probably glaring emissions, which is due to picking the first ten that sprang to mind, and keeping that order too:
2. Person Pitch - Panda Bear
3. Passover - The Black Angels
4. Original Pirate Material - The Streets
5. Elephant - The White Stripes
6. A Brighter Beat - Malcolm Middleton
7. Midnight Organ Fight - Frightened Rabbit
8. Alas I Cannot Swim - Laura Marling
9. Get Yr Blood Sucked Out - Viva Voce
10. Walking With Thee - Clinic
If you have Spotify, I've made a playlist, which can be accessed here.
I wonder if there'd be any consensus if we picked the best album of the noughties in these here comments.....
139 comments:
Doubt it.. in fact, I'll bet nobody even owns any of my top ten of the decade.. I'll put them up later just to be provocative..
A couple of observations about that list:
Had I not grown up in London, one LP would not be on that list. Had I not spent this decade in Scotland three albums would not be on that list.
Location has an effect on music, is what I surmise.
Bubbling under: Morrissey. Big Pink, Deerhunter, Raveonettes, Meursault, Lightning Bolt, Flaming Lips, TV On The Radio, and about a hundred others.
Do it Nilp!
Do it, and then I'll pretend they were my numbers 21-30....
I am not sure I can come up with 10 but I am going to try.
how the FLAH did i forget buggering "Silent Alarm" by bloody Bloc Party - I wore that record out 5 years ago...and Interpol's first....
And I can't pretend I didn't love Up The Bracket at the time...
Here we go, in no particular order;
King Crimson - The Power To Believe
Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree
Bob Dylan - Modern Times
Morrissey - You Are The Quarry
Youssou N'Dour - Egypt
Ali Farka Toure and Toumane Diabate - In the Heart of the Moon
Audioslave - Audioslave
Robert Plant and Alison Krauss - Raising Sand
Robert Plant - Mighty Rearranger
Siouxsie Sioux - Mantaray
Which Morrissey Blimpy? A friend has kept me up to date with them, but I confess I haven't listened to any of them yet..
My ten.. not so weird after all, I'm sure some of you have one or two of these. No particular order.
Orchestra Baobab, Specialist in all Styles
Anouar Brahem, Le pas du chat noir
Metalfingers presents Special Herbs vol 1-9 (3 disc set- cheating I know)
Blumfeld, L'etat et moi
Wagon Christ, Sorry I make you lush
Xen Cuts compilation (cheating here again, sorry)
Ammoncontact, one in an infinity of ways
The ripple effect, Hybrids
Erik Truffaz, The walk of the giant turtle
Christian Prommer's Drum lessons vol. 1.
Very fine list.
My naughties #1 would be "The Sunset Tree" by The Mountain Goats - despite no-showing in Orlando last week. "Get Lonely" would also be on my 10, & "We Shall All Be Healed" would make the 20. No 'Spill points for guessing my artist of the decade.
Might be fun to try & cobble together a complete 10 - will get back to you on that.
"Quarry", which Carole picked, is SO ACE! The double whammy of "Last Of The Gang" & "I have forgiven Jesus" is more than most bands achieve in their whole careers. That was actually the album that got me into Moz, and the Smiths after a lifetime of not clicking with Mozza's voice.
@nilp - no way!! you picked exactly my 21-30!!!
Only know the Ninja from your list, Nilpferd. Very good it is too - but shouldn't you be working on your Festive 'Spill picks?
Did "Black Cherry" come out in the 2000s? I'd like to nominate that as "Sexiest LP of The 2000s"
Also, how did i forget Giant Drag, and The Kills, and Prinzhorn Dance School....
@shoe - thanks! just bang yours out - easier that way I find!
Quarry makes my 10 too. Certainly the comeback of the decade "I'm Not Sorry" is my current fave, but there's hardly a dud on it. Almost as good as a Smiths album.
It is looking like we do need to get a 'Spill Official top ten (or some other quantity) noughties albums list going.
My 11th shout, which I really wanted to have in my ten is The Breeders "Mountain Battles".
I may have more recent albums than I first realised, maybe just not hugely popular ones.
Again, no particular order...
Gilad Atzmon & the Orient House Ensemble: Exile
Bojan Z: Solobsession
Esbjorn Svensson Trio: Seven Days of Falling
Mogwai: Mr Beast
Tomasz Stanko Quartet: Soul of Things
Zentralquartett: 11 Songs - aus teutschen Landen
Fever Ray: Fever Ray
Marcin Wasilewski Trio: Simple Acoustic Trio
Wayne Shorter: Footprints Live
Spring Heel Jack: Amassed
I have Quarry, will give it another go.
What are the chances, Blimpy??!! Respect!!! I'm emailing you my 35 page long discursion on the albums in question as we speak.. I thought I'd never get to send it to anyone!!! I'm so excited!!!!
Shoey, I bought so few 2009 releases to date, but have just invested in three or four, so I'm holding fire a bit in case something knocks me out... will send you something in due course..
we've got hairy cattle in the field up the road from the new place.. checked on the indie kid site the other day .. nowt going on.. nice to see MacShaggy again.
Malc Midd was playing a gig here last thursday but as I had Knackered my back I couldn't go.. bo hiss... (if it hadn't been a sit down one I would have coped with beer muscle relaxant!)
any way - don't know if it is location based.
still haven't finished 3 songs for shoeys year list yet so will be a while before a decade top 10.
(I have 30 of the observer ones .. but I didn't buy them all so defunct really... and must say (trying not to diss it too much!) the Strokes getting so much press again.. I didn't make it through the album.. I found it ummm uninteresting... just personal taste I guess.
I'm trying to come up with my 10 at the moment - Decided on the first 8, with a dozen or so competing for the last two places. You will probably guess which band is #1 (CaroleBristol will if nobody else does).
i "spottied" the LPs - the link's on the post, in the unlikely scenario that NONE of you have heard King Creosote...
That's an easy one Tim.
Blimpy _ I always meant to get that Prinzhorn Dance School.... but couldn't spell 'Prinzhorn' to find it from memory
"Quarry" is stealing and early lead!! Now, where are all the Elbow fans (or was it not that good after all?)
@aba - i couldn't get past the blatant Nirvana steal that Fever Ray did, but really i should go again and check it out with open ears. Am now listening to EST on spot.
@shane - "indie kid" was only ever my fave posts from the 'spill, I kinda got out the habit of updating it. At least it serves as a reminder of how thin the 'sPill used to be...
@Tim, mostly, i think I can guess too..
@shane - it's one of the most minimal rock records ever made. & it's on SPotify. Bu ti really recommend watching their music videos on youtube, cos they're visual artists too. Everything they do is 100% considered and aesthetic. And sexy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYIvOpJTTnQ
@aba - EST really is very good.
@nilp - that thing you said on paragraph 4 on page 29 was totally out of order!!
@nilp- is that a josh wink cover version??!!!??? it totally bloody is!!!
10 The Pineapple Thief - Tightly Unwound
09 Nightwish - Dark Passion Play
08 The Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium
07 Breathing Space - Below the Radar
06 Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
05 Karnataka - Strange Behaviour
04 Marillion - Marbles
03 Fish - 13th Star
02 Opeth - Blackwater Park
01 Mostly Autumn - The Last Bright Light
Just outside the top 10.
Therion - Gothic Kabbalah, Muse - The Resistance, IQ - Frequency, Pure Reason Revolution - The Dark Third, Dark Angel - The Reasoning, Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Linings
A total non-overlap with the very Q/Tesco's OMM list. Only three albums that have even come up in the 1000+ comments.
Very clever, mr. B...
You didn't spot the deliberate error, though- Blumfeld's l'etat et moi was so recorded in 1994..
substitute it for Tocotronic's Kapitulation.
Well obviously.
no sneaking in number elevens, twelves and thirteens.. unless you've mixed up your decades like I did, of course..
like a sperm donor here goes:
brakes - give blood
buck 65 - talkin honkey blues
mountain goat - tallahassee
tinariwen - amassakoul
bright eyes - lifted
ballboy - club anthems
the earlies - these were..
soulsavers - it's not how far..
tv on the radio - desperate...
the roots - phrenology
sage francis - personal journals
tunng - comments of the... chorus
modest mouse - good news..
Konono no1 - congotronics
is that 10 yet - shite.. sorry nilpf?
ninja compilations come too!
@Blimpy, re EST: From Gagarin's Point of View is my absolute favourite of their albums, but it was 1999 so not eligible for this list.
At first encounter I think I may be a bit tired to appreciate Prinzhorn Dance School this evening, but it sounds fun - a minimalist Make-Up, maybe?
@shane - how could I miss the Bs of ballboy and bright eyes - for some reason I had it in my head that lifted was, like, last century??!?!?!?!? lifted is indeed a fab album. props to the earlies, etc. can you spotty that stuff? bizzarely i listened to the buck65 last week, and thought of you.
@tim - i saw one of Mars Volta's first uk shows, twas aces.
Gagarin says it's fine to sneak a late 99er in, but that's just his point of view....
@carole - "walk it off" is a fab song.
I saw The Mars Volta last year. Best summed up by the guy who told me that either than was the best gig of his life, or they were completely taking the piss, and he had no idea which.
I thought it was great that a band could fill Manchester Apollo, and then play a single seamless jam for three hours. I'm sure they had Animal from The Muppets on drums.
Thought the first two albums were brilliant, then they seemed to lose it.
listening to School Of Seven Bells at the moment .. then cut into the Prinzhorn.. sexy fringe overload!
I really liked it.. bashing stuff is my kind of anti-slick that I get into often.
(now how on earth do I spotified - couldn't stand the ads - so didn't bother working it out that much))
awww- i'd forgotten how lovely the earlies are.....
@shane - you make a new playlist by dragging songs to it, then right click and get the http address to give to everyone else.
Blimpy - haven't accorded some of the bands on your list the appropriate levels of respect - so I'll have to give them another listen, respect for the Clinic though.
Here's my top ten in no particular order, except for the first one, definitely my album of the year and fast becoming my favourite of the decade.
Pajo - Scream With Me
Simian - Chemistry Is What We Are
Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That
Beach House - Devotion
The New Year - Newness Ends
The Paperchase - God Bless Your Black Heart
The Thermals - The Body, The Blood, The Machine
Shellac - 1000 Hurts
Eluvium - Indecipherable Text
Coachwhips - Bangers Vs. Fuckers
I wondered when someone was going to break ranks... I don't know several of those, so I'll check the Spotify link. For what it's worth, here's a Top 10 from me:
1. Joanna Newsom - Ys
2. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
3. Rufus Wainwright - Want I (or both Want albums if that's not cheating)
4. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
5. The Delgados - The Great Eastern
6. Belle & Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress
7. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever You Say I Am...
8. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
9. Lambchop - Nixon
10. The Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts [or possibly Picaresque - neither album's perfect, but they've probably been my favourite band of the decade]
Apologies to Bonnie Prince Billy (Ease Down the Road), St Etienne (Sound of Water), Bon Iver, 1 Giant Leap, K'Naan, Go-Betweens (Bright Yellow, Bright Orange), Bob Dylan (Modern Times), Jenny Lewis and no doubt loads more...
Hmm, and "We Love Life" by Pulp should be in my list somewhere. It's been a long decade...
@DR - The Paperchase scare the living daylights out of me, you are a braver man than I. The Coachwhips got some 'Spill love relatively recently I seem to remember.
Beach House were of the many bands that I liked a song of, but never got round to following up. So many bands, so little time....
Shellac are, of course, ace.
Mebbe you could link to some Pajo, please?
Amassakoul is a good one, another album that just failed to make my ten.
@barb - rufus will one day release the perfect greatest hits. I know this cos I made a cd of his music, and it's top banana.
I kind of agree there Blimpy. I have both of Rufus' Want albums and I reckon there is one total knockout album to be made from the best of the pair.
Martha's first one is good too.
Blimpy:
shanes quick decade list( might work)
http://open.spotify.com/user/saneshane/playlist/6Sl6B65HJsyyXyOVfDHq0U
that might be it - (as many as albums as it had anyway!)
@shanusmaximus - that worked perfect! cheers mate!
@carole - martha was responsible for one of the first ever uses if the word "dond" i believe!
I'm feeling really bad that i left out Giant Drag, now listening through it...
I dont really go top tens - not these days anyway - and certainly not of the last decade, which didnt impress me that much by comparison with previous decades. However, a top ten albums of the noughties without 'Is this it'???
Pull the other one.
DR: Simian - Chemistry Is What We Are ..loved that.
we need a Rufus 'spillover view on spotify it would be less stealing like!.
I forgot Her Space Holiday 'XOXO Panda..' my most played album of the last few years!
carole
Youssou N'Dour - Egypt got to agree but didn't get THAT Goldfrapp - must listen again.. cos usually loved their stuff - what ever style.
Ok, will change mind tomorrow:
Sunset Tree
Quarry
Cast of Thousands
Get Lonely
Funeral
Abattoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus
The Great Destroyer
Drowning In A Sea of Love
More Deep Cuts
Midnight Organ Fight
Rubber Factory
Atlas
Mr Beast
Crane Wife
We Shall All Be Healed
Drill A Hole In That Substrate
In Rainbows
Book of Bad Breaks
A Brighter Beat
Fits
Hmm, where are the ladies - bad decade?
MeesterP saith:
1: Los Campesinos!: We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed
2: The Postal Service: Give Up
3: Bright Eyes: Digital Ash in a Digital Urn
4: Ballboy: Club Anthems
5: Ben Folds: Rockin' The Suburbs
6: Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes
7: Hope of the States: Hope of the States
8: James: Hey Ma!
9: Modest Mouse: Good News For People Who Love Bad News
10: Rilo Kiley: More Adventurous
Honourable mentions ("I'm breaking the rules because I don't belong to your little gang": ooh, get her!) Lou Barlow: Emoh, The Wedding Present: Take Fountain, The Zephyrs: A Year To The Day,Ryan Adams: Rock & Roll
Sorry, Hope of the States is called The Lost Riots, my mistake. Mine will come tomorrow.
No mention so far of Akira the Dog :)
My list may have to be revised if Panic Room's second album (pre-orders should ship this week) is as good as some people are saying it is.
This thread is rapidly turning into a valuable reference/resource - nice on 'Spillers!!
Tracy 1 to 4 and 9 of Mr Ps are great.. good call on postal service.. (but I obviously can't agree with anything he ever says.. so...ummmmmm!
female top ten of the decade tomorrow - night all.
Very, very difficult to narrow it to ten. Would be difficult to narrow it to two hundred actuallly, but....
Mylene Farmer - Avant Que L'Ombre
Faye Wong - Fable
Shiina Ringo - Karuki Zamen Kuri No Hana
t.A.T.u - 200km/h In The Wrong Lane
Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
Kapela Ze Wsi Warszawa - Wiosnu Ludu
Oskar - Beg Pa Ostriyu Nozha
Girls Aloud - What Will The Neighbours Say?
Puffy - Spike
Felix da Housecat - Kittenz & Thee Glitz
That's in no particular order.
@Blimpy -
The Beach House record is worth checking out, for a new 'slowcore' record it's got some real tension / beauty in it, and a gem of a Built To Spill cover.
The Pajo record is by ex Slint man David Pajo - as I'm sure you know.
It's a Misfits covers record, I won't post the direct link (Even though it's vinyl only I was looking for links to it last night ahead of a post I'm gonna do Saturday - and one had been removed so I don't know if their company are looking for links or whatever - but if you put this into Google:
pajo scream with me decrepit
it should be the first link you see, it has a really good write up as well.
You can also find a misfits record on the same blog which covers all but two (I think) of the songs on the Pajo record (I'll post those on Saturday.)
It might be an idea for the uninitiated to listen to the Misfits first, but what do I know? It might be interesting to hear his version first, it's such a fine record - reminds you how good the Misfits were kind of gives new meaning to it or something - nope can't quite explain it:
"If you wanna scream, scream with me..."
Not in any particular order:
Things We Lost in the Fire - Low
Drum's Not Dead - Liars
Yesterday Was Dramatic, Today is OK - Mum
All is Well - Sam Amidon
Come on Feel the Illinoise - Sufjan Stevens
Hot Shots II - Beta Band
Boy in Da Corner - Dizzee Rascal
And Their Refinement of the Decline - Stars of the Lid
Wake Up Captain - Kevin Tihista
Master and Everyone - Bonnie Prince Billy
the EPs - Battles
Bubbling under
God's Money - Gang Gang Dance
Post to Wire - Richmond Fontaine
Stankonia - Outkast.
The Earlies must be due for a new album soon (please).
Doh! "...Illinoise" is definitely in my top 10.
@DR - fanks - followed link, and will listen 2moro, hopefully!
55 comments in, and I'm really intrugued by the bands on lists that I don;'t know - it's gonna be fun checking them out!!
66 comments rather....
Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh, that last lyric should read:
"If you're gonna scream, scream with me..."
That'll teach me for commenting when I'm making me tea.
I've been following along with great interest. A lot of names I've heard but never listened to. I had an idea...
Maybe we could usurp AOTW for a while, and take turns highlighting our favorite (or our most-favorite-to-share-with-'Spillers) album of the naughties. There's so much I'm curious about, and I'm sure we can't do it for every album nominated, but one per spiller would be fun AND edifying.
anyone?
I don't have a Top 10 of the decade (and don't know if I will 'cause there was a period I was too busy for music - I know, I know, such sacrilege) but in answer to the Top Album of 2009 in Abahachi's call for awards I did submit my top 10:
Album of the Year
1. Tom Russell - Blood & Candle Smoke
2. Dave Matthews - Big Whiskey & the Groo Grux King
3. Guy Clark - Someday's The Song Writes You
4. k'naan - Troubador
5. Speech Debelle - Speech Therapy
6. AA Bondy - When the Devil's Loose
7. Chris Cornell - Scream (Despite Timbaland)
8. Viva Voce - Rose City (Portland, Oregon indie band)
9. Noisettes - Wild Young Hearts (Come on, its fun!))
10. Jamie T - Kings & Queens
Oh, dear & my list is almost all white boys, think TV On The Radio need to be worked in there somewhere, at the very least.
I think I'll probably be able to compile an 'Album of the Decade' list for the 'Spill Awards out of this thread. However, since one of the few bands to have got more than one mention so far was also the winner of last year's Overcooked Award for 'Could Try Harder', this may not please everyone...
Possibly outing myself here as the only non-indie kid in the village, the albums I've most enjoyed from this decade:
We Shall Overcome: the Pete Seeger Sessions - Springsteen
Raising Sand - Alison Krauss & Robert Plant
Anglicana - Eliza Carthy
The Old Kit Bag - Richard Thompson
Underneath the Stars - Kate Rusby
England, Half-English - Billy Bragg
Habdiehre - la BrassBanda
Back to Black - Amy Winehouse
Exit Strategy of the Soul - Ron Sexsmith
Careless Love - Madeleine Peyroux
Is that time of the decade already? Sheesh!... I'll try to come up with my own, then. Really interesting suggestions here, this is bookmarkable stuff!
I couldn't come up with a top 10, but I too am reading attentively.
Nilp: I bought Le Pas Du Chat Noir thanks to you.
so a quick female list for the decade:
taken by trees - open field
camille - le fil (or music hole)
organ - grab that gun
regina spektor - begin to hope
yeah yeah yeahs - fever to tell (or it's blitz!)
st. vincent - marry me
hanne hakkelberg - rykestrasse 68
stars - set yourself on fire (for ami millans vocal parts)
hector zazou - corps electriques (katy jane garside does the vocals)
cibelle - shine of dried....leaves
over the rhine - drunkards prayer
have I done 10 yet? - fiest, martina t-b/ M.I.A/ Bjork/ goldfrapp/ the concretes/ laura veirs/ viva voce/ joy zipper/ the kills/ miss kitten/ goldfrapp/ emilliana torrini all did albums I listen to a lot... difficult choice when fronting bands or M/F duos just went with speed thinking.
for those with spotify :
http://open.spotify.com/user/saneshane/playlist/0nS0oHpmKj6IvpxqyHJBmX
Oooh, I do like a list - and being ever so slightly anal, here's one from each year of the noughties:
2000: The Sophtware Slump - Grandaddy
2001: Ballboy - Club Anthems 2001
2002: The Libertines - Up The Bracket
2003: Shack - ... Here's Tom With The Weather
2004: Morrissey - You Are The Quarry
2005: Sufjan Stevens - Come On Feel The Illinoise!
2006: The Decemberists - The Crane Wife
2007: Edwyn Collins - Home Again
2008: Death Cab For Cutie - Narrow Stairs
2009: Prefab Sprout - Let's Change The World With Music
Interesting to note (well, interesting to me anyway) that while I share a lot of music in common with a lot of you, the only top tens posted above that really made me sit up and pay attention were those of TracyK and barbryn.
Of course, the first one in my list should say:
2000: Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
Mmmmm, this is more difficult than I thought it would be. I tend to buy older sixties and seventies stuff and for atleast three of the years in the past decade I didn't buy very much atall, due to pecuniary issues, so I'm suprised that I had such a hard time whittling this list down to just ten.
Anyway, in no particular order, here goes:-
'The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place' - Explosions In The Sky
'Seventh Tree' - Goldfrapp
'Elephant' - White Stripes
'The Trials of Van Occupanther' - Midlake
'Absolution' - Muse
'Want Two' - Rufus Wainwright
'Back To Black' - Amy Winehouse
'Raising Sand' - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
'Songs For The Deaf' - Queens of the Stone Age
'Because Of The Times' - Kings Of Leon
Just bubbling under......'Want One' - Rufus Wainwright (agree with Carole about there being an awesome single album struggling to get of Want One and Two), 'Tired Of Hanging Around' - The Zutons, 'Franz Ferdinand' - Franz Ferdinand and 'Upside Down' - Aynsley Lister
The Muse, QOTSA, White Stripes and Kings of Leon choices are just representative of everything they've done in the past decade. I could have chosen two or three albums by each but that would have been a waste of picks.
And there were others, too numerous to mention.
Good game, good game!
Right, mine:
1: The Decemberists: Picaresque
2: Ballboy: A Guide To The Daylight Hours
3: Belle & Sebastian: Dear Catastrophe Waitress
4: The Postal Service: Give Up
5: Murry The Hump: Songs Of Ignorance
6: Hefner: We Love The City
7: PJ Harvey: Stories From the City, Stories From The Sea
8: White Stripes; White Blood Cells
9: The Clint Boon Experience; Life in Transition
10: Maximo Park: A Certain Trigger
Bubbling under: The Delgados: The Great Eastern, Death Cab For Cutie: Plans, Bright Eyes: I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning, The Long Blondes: Someone To Drive You Home, The Decemberists: The Crane Wife.
Toffeboy, barbryn, totally unsurprised to see the amount of similar ideas in our lists!
@TracyK, Maximo Park's 'A Certain Trigger' was one of the albums that was just bubbling under my 'just-bubbling-under' nominations (if that makes any sense).
It does! It's perfect jangly pop to my ears and Graffiti, Acrobat and Going Missing would all be in my top 100 tracks of the 2000s. Oooh, now there's a list!
Haven't seen anyone else list any of my ten - where are @Jforbes, @AfraidOfSunlight and @Jonana when we want them?
Oh my, there are some good lists here. How can I resist? (Also, Things We Lost in the Fire being this decade threw things almost)
So, off the top of my head and surely due to change (or at least diversify a bit):
1. Boxer - The National
2. Empty Rooms - Canyon
3. Midnight Organ Fight - Frightened Rabbit
4. Lifted, or... - Bright Eyes
5. Asleep in the Back - Elbow
6. Black Sheep Boy (+ appendix) - Okkervil River
7. Separation Sunday - The Hold Steady
8. Mirrored - Battles
9. The Lost Riots - Hope of the States
10. A Grabd Don't Come for Free - The Streets
Now this does include some artists that would have more than one and many many others that I can't even think about now, but I reckon at least half of that is pretty rock solid. Oh but what about Mogwai, The Faint, Six By Seven, Shearwater, M83, Fuck Buttons, Wolf Parade, Why? WHY???????
Curse you, blimpy. In the best possible way, curse you.
A grabd? Actually I reckon you can get those for free...
P.S. There's a blog about 'best tv ads of the noughties' on the Guardian today. Great piece, interesting topic. Second post:
"Best advert of the noughties? Ask me next year when the first decade of the 21st century is nearly over."
Honestly. The internet gets me so angry sometimes.
But the decade doesn't finish until December 31st 2010.
Ah, absolutely Carole, I understand that completely. But my irritation is twofold:
1. The pettiness of so many people who ruin so many well-written blogs so quickly with such toss frustrates me sometimes.
2. Irrespective of whether the decade finishes in a year's time or not, I maintain that 2010 is as much a part of the noughties as 1980 was of the seventies.
I have no quibble with the timekeeping, but the phrasing makes a difference.
Or maybe I should just lie down?...
@TracyK - that's the Ninetiesest Noughties list I've ever seen (which is not in any way a criticism). Brilliantly, they have that Murry the Hump album on Spotify - vague memories of them from a John Peel Festive 50, so will give it a listen.
@snadfrod - nice to hear you're around. Boxer's another that should have been on my list (although possibly I prefer Alligator...)
Cheers Ejay! Owed you for Portico Quartet and Super Rail Band.
Decemberists Castaways and Cutouts
Belle and Sebastian - Push Barman to Open Old Wounds
Outkast - Stankonia
Radiohead, but I don't know which one
White Stripes - White Blood Cells
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides (1999, I think, if you don't accept that, I'll go with Ecstatic)
Talib Kweli - Quality
CYHSY - CYHSY
Arctic Monkeys - WPSIATWIN
Damn, I had the other one picked out, but now I can't remember what it was. Back later. Lots of thoughts on this whole process and decade and...
The Drones - Wait Long By The River And The Bodies of Your Enemies Will Float By
Drive-By Truckers - Decoration Day
Be Good Tanyas - Chinatown
Frightened Rabbit - The Midnight Organ Fight
Shearwater - Palo Santo (Expanded Edition)
Sufjan Stevens - Seven Swans
Beirut - Gulag Orkestar
Antony & The Johnsons - I Am A Bird Now
The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic
The Wrens - The Meadowlands
The National - Alligator
A few of those would stay if somebody would ask me in 5 minutes. Others don't (Wait Long.. and Gala Mill is too close a call, and if EP's were to count, Young Liars would be there)... And there's a lot of records already mentioned (from The Decemberists, TVOTR, Okkervil River, Arcade Fire, Porcupine Tree... literally dozens I'd have here too). It's really difficult to narrow it down to ten.
Having said that, I don't remember the last record I've listened to back to back... It's not the way I am listening to music anymore.
I better submit this or I'll be changing the list for days!
Barbryn, I looked at my list and thought "Hmm, that shows how much Peel I was listening to in the early part of the 2000s", so I'm not at all insulted by the 90s tag for it. Murry the Hump were Aberystwyth mates, so I knew those songs when Math was performing them solo acoustic down in Rummers back in 1996. It's riddled with memories (the inner sleeve namechecks two of my exes) and the drum pattern for Cracking Up was done by a friend of mine that died. Last time Murry played as a band was at his funeral, and Davey of The Crimea/The Crocketts also played. Shame they really buggered Valley girl up though.
Can anyone remember the name or date of that thread where we listed our albums of the year, by year, for every year since we could remember?
I want to have another look at that before I drive myself completely insane trying to get this list in front of me down to only ten!
Off to bed now, so will look back in later.
"But the decade doesn't finish until December 31st 2010."
Carole, that would only be true if the decade started on 1st January 2001, wouldn't it? Didn't it start on 1st January 2000?
it's a leap decade, duh
Oh, my list of them has eleven records on it!
I'll get my coat..
I'm going to save that tenth space for all the albums I've been obsessed with, but can't listen to any more, or am currently obsessed with but just not sure about their lasting power, or love love love but just got edged out, so...Phrenology (the Roots) or Rising Down (The Roots), Like Water for CHocolate (Common) Anything by Beirut (but I didn't get their last album, did anybody? I'd like to hear it), Johnny Flynn Alarum, Manu CHao (I have 2 albums), GOrillaz, The Shins Oh Inverted World, K'naan Dusty Foot Philosopher (maybe this should be on the list proper) or Troubadour, Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned itself Inside Out...There's a lot of west coast indie hip hop I'm just discovering, so I don't really have a sense of when it came out, and I'm too lazy to wiki it for this comment, so...Blackalicious, Jurassic 5, Pharcyde (is it all 90s? possibly, I don't know), Also Dead Prez and Immortal Technique, I've just been discovering over the past year or two, but I don't know when the albums came out, I loved Funeral but didn't even put Neon Bible in my iTunes, although I bought the actual CD and everything...I'm sure there's so much more. Oh -- Franz Ferdinand! Oh, so much more.
This has been a funny decade, because my life has totally changed (living in an apartment in boston, working on a film--->living here, owning a house, with 2 children, trying to think about working on a film again). But perhaps more importantly, my whole way of buying and listening to music has changed. The fact that people have burned CDs for me means that sometimes I don't even know the names of the songs. I didn't own a computer in 2000, and now... The internet has changed everything, and RR and the 'Spill have changed things even more... It boggles my small mind.
Oh, and I love this -- David heard it on NPR. they don't call it the naughties they call it "the Uh-ohs" (getit --00?)
Oh yeah, I forgot Good News for People Who Like Bad News...wouldn't make my top ten now, but there was a period when I played it 10 times a day. I still like MM in theory, but they get me down a bit. Funny how that happens, isn't it?
Carole, that would only be true if the decade started on 1st January 2001, wouldn't it? Didn't it start on 1st January 2000?
No, because the year 2000 was the last year of the 20th century.
It seems pretty obvious really, just start counting from zero and you'll see how it works.
The Millennium celebrations were all a year early.
100!
Yeah, I'm going to take Carole's line on this and not declare until the end of next year on Best Albums of the Decade, but this is primarily so I can wait until the Gil Scott-Heron album comes out.
Actually, while the 1-10 argument is irrefutable in pure mathematical terms, any definitive ruling on what constitutes a decade is historically spurious since our calendar comes from a system only formalised when a timing of an event that was then five centuries in the past was approximated (and we later know they got it two or three years out), which was later amended, doesn't represent all the world's belief systems and is inaccurate enough to need a corrective every four years. So if people choose to define a decade according to the digit in the tens column, that's just a further adaptation. And I'd go with Outkast's Speakerboxx/The Love Below; Edwyn Collins' Home Again; Kanye's Late Registration; Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor; Gilad Atzmon's Exile oh and a bunch of other stuff - there never was a Year Zero anyway, so it's wrong, I tell you, wrong!
There was a UN declaration to have a 9-year decade so the Y2K celebrations could go ahead as planned.
The Naughties were supposed to be a 'leap decade' of 11 years to make up for it, but it has been decided instead to remain at 10 years per decade ad infinitum on the grounds that a) the media would laugh at them for an 11 year decade, b) most people seem to prefer the end of the 9 year to be the end of the decade, and c) it is justified in any event because most people lost a year somewhere in the 60s anyway.
[One root of the debate may well be that most people assume 'deca' to be from the Latin deca for 10. It is not. It is from the Greek deca, which means 10ish.]
carolebristol - you're completely correct in your counting along with Fidel Castro, who celebrated the millenium at the end of 2000. Howsoever, we've started and so we finish...
I've actually made a top 100 which I'm counting down from on Twitter (under RalphwjBrown) at the moment currently on # 96, thebottom 10 are
100 The Futureheads
99 Jill Scott - Who Is Jill Scott
98 Mandoza - Mandoza
97 Explorer's Club - Freedom Wind
96 Efterklang - Parades
95 Youssou N'Dour - Egypt
94 Madness - The Liberty of Norton Folgate
93 Elton John - Songs From The West Coast
92 The XX - The XX
91 Fatboy Slim - Halfway between the gutter and the stars
90 Dolly PArton - Little Sparrow
pause
and the top ten are :
10 The Streets - Original Pirate Material
9 Bob Dylan - Modern Times
8 QOTSA - Songs For The Deaf
7 Stevie Wonder - A Time 2 Love
6. Amy Winehouse - Back To Black
5. Kanye West - Late Registration
4. Brian Wilson - Smile
3. Arcade Fire - Funeral
2. Ben Folds - Rockin' The Suburbs
1. Radiohead - Kid A
and I bet you can guess half of the intervening 80...
I'm a pop kid.
be good to compile a RR top 100 overall with each number one getting 100 points down to 100 getting one point. Bound to be abused though these critics lists, but what the hey ?
Yeah but, tin, did the UN consider that Gil Scott-Heron would have an album out on the cusp of the noughties and the tenties? Doesn't that constitute an 'all bets are off' moment? I mean, if they're going to change stuff around for some Palestinian kid being born...it's Gil!
my apologies blimpy et al - I was inadvertently signed in with my other identity - one of them...
GreenParty = magicman
Absolutely, May1366. I'm staying with the tens digit- mainly because there is no way I am going to leave the y2k Xen Cuts off my decade.
It's all the Arabic world's fault anyway, who asked them to invent zeros in the first place and leave them lying around everywhere, and think of the energy wasted with those endless discussions about infinity.
I've consulted with The Arab World on this and am assured it is nought their fault. I was also told to let my camel seek the shade of it's shadow.
Oh and May? If memory serves I read a review of the Gil Scott Heron album (or parts thereof) and it is supposedly rather good. Oh wel, bad timing old chum. chin up what
@ Carole - I love the pedantry here and I always use the same argument with my wife to prove that she was born in the 1950s (i.e. 7 Dec 1960) whereas I was a child of the 6os (6 Jan 1961).
No, she's not convinced either ...
Not to introduce another level of pedancy, but life begins at birth?
or indeed 9 months before that
"Pedancy"???
A tendency towards pedanticism; the frequent display of pedantlantics. Duh
TV On The Radio didn't make my top 100.
Neither did : Outkast, Common or Avril Lavigne
Here's another one that I enjoy. Despite ToffeeGirl's and my birthdays being only 30 days apart, the following statements are true:
- next year ToffeeGirl will be 50
- last year I was 46
Always tickles me, that one...
Personally, pedantics aside, I am happy to have been born in the 1950s.
It makes me a genuine child of the rock and roll years.
Here goes... and in no particular order
krauss and plant - raising sand
17 hippies (feat Marc Ribot & jacob Ilja) - Play Guitar
17 hippies (again!!) - Heimlich
Amy Whitehouse - back to black
joe jackson - rain
graham parker - don't tell columbus
rosendo - veo veo mamoneo
joaquin sabina - 19 dias y 500 noches
nico wayne toussaint - southern winds blowin'
dylan - together through life
@Toffeeboy, that reminds me of my claim that I was born a year overdue........due at Christmas 1963, born Jan '64!
And I posit that a decade is any ten years that we want it to be....
So the best albums between 1997 and 2006 would be.....?
there's very little consensus isn't there, except that Amy Winehouse is a clear winner ! Other albums mentioned more than once - Rockin' The Suburbs, Fleet Foxes, The Postal service...
OK, how 'bout what with inflation and all a 50's/60's decade is only worth nine years now? No wait, 11?
Poop, I hate economics.
I found it!
Anyone who wants to review their current choices against comments they made last time we dredged up the past can find them here:
http://readersrecommend.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-long-have-you-been-buying-records.html
(Sorry, still don't know how to do links in these comment boxes)
I'm going to side with those claiming 2000-2009 as the true decade, just so that I can include my favourite Icelanders in my (late, I admit) Great Ten From The Last Ten.
In no particular order:
Sigur Ros – Agaetis Byrjun
The Zutons - You Can Do Anything
Dakota Suite – Alone With Everybody
Richmond Fontaine – Winnemucca
Elbow – The Seldom Seen Kid
Drive-By Truckers – The Dirty South
The National - Alligator
Willard Grant Conspiracy – Let It Roll
Soulsavers – Broken
and a slight cheat to finish
Johnny Cash - Unearthed which is the box set collection of The American Recordings plus other bits.
Bubbling under: Audioslave, Steve Earle's Jerusalem, Shack's The Corner Of Miles And Gil, Motorhead's Kiss Of Death, Ryan Adams' Gold ... Adam Masterson, Guillemots, 500 Miles To Memphis, Young Galaxy, Alabama 3, Micah P. Hinson & The Gospel Of Progress HELPHELPMYFINGERSWONTSTOPTYPINGOHMYGODHELPMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..........
I'll have to confess, Boxer was mainly top of my list because it ties so hard with Alligator that it isn't funny. There are one or two lyrics on Boxer that just give it the edge...
Also, re. decades, I have to apologise for starting this, but still maintain that if someone asks for "albums of the noughties" or "albums of the 2000s" then they are asking for something slightly different than "best album of the decade". I mean, if someone asked for "best albums called Eric" you wouldn't nominate one called Frank, would you?
Alright, I'll lie down. Gregorians be damned...
@ hey snadfrod! How ya bean?
@Carole:
As I'm just about to head off for a long weekend in York to see two of the bands in my best-of-the-decade list, did you managed to find an affordable hotel in the end?
DsD: The easy way to do links in here is to, go over to a Guardian blog and prep the post there, instead of hitting the post button (to avoid a lot of head-scratching & qestions about your sanity), cut & paste over here. To post a link to a tune in db, do the same trick with the Yahoo player code.
Don't have "Magic" vision, but Frightened Rabbit's last album seems to be doing pretty well.
Hi Tim, no we couldn't get it together, a bit of essential expenditure scuppered the long weekend away plans.
Shame.
Maybe some other time.
126!!
Agaetis Byrnum was 1999. that's definitely not this decade
WHAT?!
Hang on a sec ....
*sounds of CDs being flung around the room*
It says 2000 on the actual disc, magicman.
The band say 1999:
http://www.sigur-ros.co.uk/band/disco/agaetis.php?utm_campaign=awesm&utm_content=site-demo&utm_medium=awe.sm-twitter&utm_source=direct-awe.sm
Hmmm, so does allmusic, gents. How can the songs be publ.&© 2000 if it came out a year earlier?
For what it's worth, I have it as 1998.
On iTunes, one track is listed as 1998, all the rest are 1999.
Mind you, I was very frustrated by "Music Has the Right to Children" being last century.
Perhaps this is just more evidence that Icelanders aren't as great at counting as once thought.
I've already got one album that says "2010" on the actual disk!
The business model adopted by some smaller bands, where a limited edition available only direct from the band is often followed up by a standard retail edition several months later. Pedants have endless scope arguing which year an album belongs to....
Discogs agrees that AB was released on Fat Cat in 2000.
Now I need to work that one into my list too - sorry Decemberists.
Discogs agrees that AB was released on Fat Cat in 2000.
Now I need to work that one into my list too - sorry Decemberists.
Yes, I had a student cite a 2010 work in an essay last week; I suppose it's possibly that the publishers had a rare burst of efficiency and produced the book earlier than expected, too late to change the date on the title page.
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